Okay, so in part one of this mostly gratuitous in-depth look at my views on comics you guys saw how I felt about the Marvel vs. DC issue and also got a look at some of what I am reading currently. This time around I want to settle an issue that I have tentatively addressed in previous posts but haven’t gotten the chance to fully explore. That’s right, this post is entire devoted to Grant Morrison’s run on Batman. I know some of my followers hate him with an undying passion while others love what he’s doing with the series. I have to say, Batman and Son, R.I.P. and Final Crisis were all overly convoluted and extremely disappointing. I loved the idea for Batman and Son/The Black Glove but the way he wrote it made the story nearly incomprehensible. R.I.P. and Final Crisis were just altogether nonsensical and unenjoyable. When he started Batman and Robin I decided to give him another chance and while it made sense and the plot seemed to have a definitive direction, some of the executive decisions he made on that series (his portrayal of Jason for one) still left a somewhat bad taste in mouth. When it came time for the Return of Bruce Wayne, I was excited and afraid all at once. Once I began to read it, I just became frustrated at the callous attempt at retcon, the near plagiarism of Captain America Reborn and the fact that I was, yet again, thoroughly confused up until the series’ end. That is all the bad things I have to say concerning Mr. Morrison. However, I just picked up Batman: The Return and Batman Inc. 1 (as well as the rest of the Road Home one shots I was missing) yesterday when I went to my local comic store. I am hooked! Morrison’s pitch for the League of Batmen 2.0 has none of the frustrations that burdened his earlier works AND the great ideas he was tossing around at the beginning of the run make their return here. I am excited to see where he is taking this series and am willing to give him a second chance. That is to say, to those of you who think Grant Morrison has lost his touch, I implore you to go spend 7 bucks at your comic book store. It just might change your mind.
Well, since you seem to share my opinions on Morrison, all the way up his most recent disaster, I might give this a shot. But I’m on record multiple times for saying that the main part where he jumps the shark tends to be the end of an arc… or basically every single arc with him behind it since at least the last 6-7 years (¿New X-Men, anyone?).
So: I have no doubt that the beginning of these ideas will prove to be enjoyable, actually. If he does anything akin to trying to resolve anything, however, I will be far more wary about spending money, considering how long I’ve been trying to be impartial, in more than one universe. He’s able to make good pitches, but his ability to fully execute them has not had a good track record.
If I just hated what he did outright, it would be simple. I would never buy anything he wrote, and it would be the easiest budgeting decision I’d ever made since picking up a book of any kind with money that I took out of my pants pocket. As I just said, though… it’s much more complicated… much more frustratingly complicated.
endearingpsychosis-deactivated2 asked: Grant Morrison, will he just go die in a fire already? He ruins Batman's death, he thinks he can now ruin Batman's return... who lets him write so much anymore as it is? Why hasn't DC revoked his privileges?
Also, props for the Red Lantern shirt. Definitely.
The balls on that guy. As we’ve discussed before, Grant Morrison seems to need to overdo it way beyond even the natural necessary drama of a comic book, regardless of whether he’s writing for DC or Marvel. He treats characters like he’s able to write richly psychological effects on them, and he’s lost touch with how a human being perceives anything a while back. Then, because his convoluted crap looks vaguely like someone’s mind or space and time itself are breaking, people applaud wildly for his ability to spur on half-baked ideas that spawn Salvador Dali rejected scenes in the endings of his garbage.
So people buy his overdone, overwrought stuff, and Grant Morrison apologists rationalize all of his half-assed, last-minute screwups to his setups, because he used to be able to sort of write.
At this point, I’m more consistently comfortable reading any Wolverine book, regardless of whether it’s properly maintaining any continuity concerns, and we know how I feel about that.
For a while, the shirts offered were… okay. A better one popped up somewhat recently, though. Pictures will occur.
But those props?
EDIT: If he caught fire and somehow survived, he would just write some veiled reference into it, and when everyone discussed how crappy it was, he would talk about it as being a dark time in his life. Bah.
wow…this is amazing.
It would be if Captain Marvel didn’t suck. He’s like the Dan of Marvel.
DISAGREE. I love Captain Marvel. HAVEN’T YOU READ KINGDOM COME? He’s such a bamf in that.
Wait… Scott, ¿are you referring to Captain Marvel as if he belongs to Marvel? I mean, maybe you referred to him in terms of the Marvel family in the DC books, but I’m not so sure that I’m finding any proof to support that theory of mine.
Anyway, I really wish that Captain Marvel (DC) was written for a bit more consistently these days. I’m basically saying that how well Captain Marvel comes off seems to be a measure of whether the writing is awesome, because ol’ Billy Batson and his superheroic alter-ego don’t seem to write themselves. This is most recently evidenced by how relatively pointless Captain Marvel is in Final Crisis. Grant Morrison doesn’t really seem to have any idea of what the hell to do with Captain Marvel, for the most part, and it shows pretty blatantly.
Another prime example is how pathetic he basically was in a duel against Thor back in DC vs. Marvel. I admit, however, that it would completely suck to go up against Thor in general.
That all said, this image is awesome, regardless.
KARTHIK! Grant Morrison can’t write anything worth reading now-a-days, so naturally his portrayal of Captain Marvel in Final Crisis is terrible. And I do agree with you, he really had no idea what to do with him, so it sucked. But I think Final Crisis sucked as a whole anyway.
As for that battle you mentioned… Mm, yeah, Perhaps more bad writing. But it’s not for his lack of being a good character. I still like him, he is potentially interesting… He just has to be well written, which I think should be a standard for every character.
Basing your opinion on a writer due to one project you didn’t like isn’t the way to judge someone’s writing ability. 20+ years ago, he brought heroes out of obscurity and made them icons. 15 years ago, he made Aquaman a bad ass. 10 years ago, he wrote an X-Men comic that developed new stars while highlighting drama only matched by Joss Whedon. Grant Morrison took over Batman five years ago that is only rivaled by Gotham Central for best Bat book in the last decade. Currently he and Geoff Johns are developing the DCU for the next decade and doing a great job where time and time again, people have failed.
Not trying to argue in any sense but I’m just interested in what other titles written by Grant in the last 5 years besides “Final Crisis” have you read?
Also, Grant will be writing a Captain Marvel story by the name of “Thunder Dome” next year.
It’s going to be pretty great.
Thank you, I must’ve heard it wrong when I was at the panel at SDCC.
Did I say that I was basing my opinion on one graphic novel? No, no I did not. I am just particularly outraged by it in particular. Seeing as Morrison is your favorite writer, you obviously have a bias of some sort. I’m not saying he could never write, I’m saying he can’t write lately. Far be it from me to try to stop someone from reading Morrison’s stuff lately, but it just isn’t good. Most of the ideas are good, yes, but it’s not written in a way that is enjoyable to read.
Not only do I hate Final Crisis, I think Arkham Asylum: A Serious House On A Serious Earth was an absolute abomination. I can’t believe that that piece of crap is regarded as being one of the all-time best graphic novels. It’s so fucking bad. I was legitimately furious when I finished reading it. Batman R.I.P. is also just as convoluted and ridiculous and Final Crisis, only maybe a little less so. Even still, I wasn’t a fan of R.I.P. I’ve been following Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne and I’ve honestly been pretty disappointed and weirded out by it. You have no fucking idea how excited I was to hear that they were bringing Bruce “back” and then I am left with… whatever this crazy mess is turning into.
I really. Am just. Not. A. Fan.
Some of his JLA stuff was good… A while ago.
I’m sure Karthik will have something to say of his work for Marvel. I haven’t read much Marvel except for lately, so I cannot judge his work there.
Yeah, until he pulled what is consistently becoming his more recent inability to know how to end things, regarding his “New X-Men” run.
What makes him so disappointing time and time again is that last-lap problem, let alone a fairly disjointed sense of how another mind is going to process the build-up, in plenty of cases (see what Nicole mentions earlier). The comic book clerk summed up some of my issues by stating, “It would be kind of nice if Final Crisis was reprinted with this “missing” chapter. No, really… I really liked #701 and #702, genuinely. Enough that I’m worried he’s going to jump the shark all over again, if he follows his pattern from the last decade or so.
Look… I know what he wants to do. I get that. Cool. His follow-through is significantly lacking. It’s like eating a candy bar and thinking “Hey, this is pretty decent,” and then you get confused because the last bit of filling was finished with sand. You don’t think of the bites before, you think, Why the hell couldn’t they have just paid enough attention to not put sand in my candy bar, damnit?
The fact that he’s been capable of being a good writer is why I’m all the more disappointed, now.